New to E-manage Blue.

[Mitsu.kid.02]

Hi everyone!

I have a 2002 lancer oz rally that im in the process of going turbo. Im going to be using the e-manage blue for tuning. Im only boosting 7PSI max, with 330 cc injectors. I have the Injector harness as well. Im a complete newb at tuning so i figured i would go piggyback first before i switch to ECUflash which can ajust anything on the ecu. Is there any threads i should check out that explain how to tune with the e-manage? Im shooting for a 11.5 AFR while boosting. Thanks guys
-Tony

[Dzaster]

Welcome! Welcome!

As far as specfic threads, I can't think of any for sure, but I know there are some. However, if you have a question ask up. Have you had a chance to poke around in teh software? Just to get an idea of the software.

[Mitsu.kid.02]

Welcome! Welcome!

As far as specfic threads, I can't think of any for sure, but I know there are some. However, if you have a question ask up. Have you had a chance to poke around in teh software? Just to get an idea of the software.

I actually will just be reciving it today!! :D Im excited to wire it up and atleast look around while its hooked up, but how do i wire it up? I know how to wire and everything but i was on greddy.com and didnt see a diagram for my car (02 LANCER OZ AUTO TRANS, 4G94) all i saw was the eclipse and 3000gt. I sent them an e-mail and havnt recived anything back yet! What colors are what wire? It also has the injector harness too! Any ideas man? Thanks
-Tony

[Dzaster]

My best idea is CALL THEM! I've called them a couple times in the past. Took a few calls, but I eventually got my answer.

[Mitsu.kid.02]

My best idea is CALL THEM! I've called them a couple times in the past. Took a few calls, but I eventually got my answer.

Ok, so i managed to get the revised ECU pin-out. i wired up the RPM, GROUND, and POWER. I wired up the injectors aso, it ran for a few min, then when i tryed to start it up it like bogged out, im not sure if thats because you have the guy i got it from has it set for 330cc injectors or if maybe i didnt wire it correctly?. Also when only the RPM, GRND, PWR are wired up the e-manage "interface" L.E.D flashes green, and the "active" L.E.D. flashes red rapidy, then displays an error code of "one red flash, then a 2 sec pause, then three fast red flashes" Is this because the air flow wire is disconneted? I was told not to wire it up yet until i get the turbo installed? what happens if i do wire it up? Also i cant seem to connect the e-manage to the PC, i downloaded the CD i got and its on the desktop. I have the silver USB connected to the e-manage, the black USB connected to the comp, then both of those wires connected to a black box where the two black and silver wires connect to, and the grey internet wire (atleast i think it is) connected to the comp internet port. But im not sure how to connect it to the PC because when i attach the black USB to the comp the comp says it needs to get the software but it cant find it?? not sure what to do there?? Any ideas?
-Tony

[Accord2nrz]

my suggestion would be to wire everything up and leave the airflow values at stock. Welcome to the Site!

Sometimes i'll get a flashing red light but the car runs fine anyway. Its funny that way but if you're getting a code 13 then definitely check your wiring.

[Mitsu.kid.02]

my suggestion would be to wire everything up and leave the airflow values at stock. Welcome to the Site!

Sometimes i'll get a flashing red light but the car runs fine anyway. Its funny that way but if you're getting a code 13 then definitely check your wiring.


Ok that sounds good. Is a mitsubishi lancer a karman/vortex type sensor? All i know about my air sensor is its a Mass Air Flow Sensor, now for the air flow sensor i actually cut the wire on the ECU and connect the two wires from the e-manage up to the now two wires on the ECU? Also i cant get the E-manage to communicate to the PC, is this because of the airflow error? When i plug in the USB to the comp it tells me it needs an update or drivers and i hit the "reccomended" install button but it says that it cant find the programs???

[Mitsu.kid.02]

Ok that sounds good. Is a mitsubishi lancer a karman/vortex type sensor? All i know about my air sensor is its a Mass Air Flow Sensor, now for the air flow sensor i actually cut the wire on the ECU and connect the two wires from the e-manage up to the now two wires on the ECU? Also i cant get the E-manage to communicate to the PC, is this because of the airflow error? When i plug in the USB to the comp it tells me it needs an update or drivers and i hit the "reccomended" install button but it says that it cant find the programs???

UPDATE: I found out that my lancer uses a karman vortex type, so, this is how i have it set up so far. The three knobs on the e-manage under the front cover are set to "3, 8, 3" Which is strange to me because i thought the first knob is for the selection of cylinders, then the other two knobs for air flow type, but the greddy ecu wire location chart told me to set it to 3, but i have 4 cylinders, i dont get that? Then i proceeded to wire up the power, ground, and the RPM wires, then i wired up the 4 injectors with the injector harness, then i wired up the airflow wires, but when i started the car it died. So i turned the car off and turned the key to the ACC possition, the e-manage active led flashed green, and the interation led was lit a solid orange or light red, idk im like color blind, so then i proceeded to connecting the USB to the e-manage, to a black box where the USB from the e-manage and another connection come off the box, one to the internet port on the comp, and one to the e-manage, then on the back of the black box another USB connects to the computer. I open e-manage on the computer and it starts up. Then the computer askes me to locate drivers or update software, i proceed to do so but it ultimatly says it cannot update. Some one mentioned to me about having to change the "com port" no idea what that means. so after i "x" out of the window where it tells me it cannt update, at the bottom of the e-manage program on the comp it says "ready" in the left hand side, and "offline" in the bottom right hand side. I really am lost now :-( what do i do from here? Sorry for the long post im just trying to explain everything so you can understand Thanks


Here is the setup: http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/363/emanage.jpg
-Tony

[Dzaster]

It sounds like it may very well be that black box you're using to between Emanage and PC. Windows is looking for the driver for that black box(conversion cable) and it canot find it because its most likely on a CD that should have came with the black box. You may be able to download the driver if you don't have the CD. Just try googling some variations of the details on the box witht eh work "Driver" in there and you might find something. If not, you need to find another version of a conversion cable--new one.

Also, why does that black box connect to the PC twice? Is one for power?

[maxgtr2000]

Ok that sounds good. Is a mitsubishi lancer a karman/vortex type sensor? All i know about my air sensor is its a Mass Air Flow Sensor, now for the air flow sensor i actually cut the wire on the ECU and connect the two wires from the e-manage up to the now two wires on the ECU? Also i cant get the E-manage to communicate to the PC, is this because of the airflow error? When i plug in the USB to the comp it tells me it needs an update or drivers and i hit the "reccomended" install button but it says that it cant find the programs???

By the pic you posted I'm guessing your laptop doesn't have a serial port(double check if it does because this will eleviate you current problem, if it doesn't have one, proceed-->). If you go to Radio Shack you can find a usb to serial converter and it will have the cd, do that if you cannot find the drivers for the black box on the internet. The pc will not be able to communicate with the emanage without this. The gray plug you have looks exactly like my zeitronix serial data cable, all it is is a telephone wire that plugs into the zeitronix wideband unit, I'm not sure if another type of wideband uses the same set up I'm just saying it looks exactly like mine. On the maf connection you cut your wire on the ecu and connect it as shown in the emanage instructions, one wire connects to the ecu side of the wire, the other emanage wire connects to the maf side of the wire. Don't start to the car until you can get the software working because the car won't run until you get the maf parameters set. As far as the maf setting on the dials on the emanage for my car it's 7-0-1 and my car is a v-6 so the first number doesn't reflect your exact number of cylinders, it's just a setting.

[Mitsu.kid.02]

By the pic you posted I'm guessing your laptop doesn't have a serial port(double check if it does because this will eleviate you current problem, if it doesn't have one, proceed-->). If you go to Radio Shack you can find a usb to serial converter and it will have the cd, do that if you cannot find the drivers for the black box on the internet. The pc will not be able to communicate with the emanage without this. The gray plug you have looks exactly like my zeitronix serial data cable, all it is is a telephone wire that plugs into the zeitronix wideband unit, I'm not sure if another type of wideband uses the same set up I'm just saying it looks exactly like mine. On the maf connection you cut your wire on the ecu and connect it as shown in the emanage instructions, one wire connects to the ecu side of the wire, the other emanage wire connects to the maf side of the wire. Don't start to the car until you can get the software working because the car won't run until you get the maf parameters set. As far as the maf setting on the dials on the emanage for my car it's 7-0-1 and my car is a v-6 so the first number doesn't reflect your exact number of cylinders, it's just a setting.


Thanks so much for that info man, i really needed the help! Ok so i understand now that the drivers its asking to download or locate are for the black box and not the e-manage itself, So i dont think my computer has a port for the other end of the emanage cable, so i think ill have to get a new part with the cd drivers then that should hopefully solve my communication error. As far as the MAF setting, ill hold off on that part until i can communicate with the car and set the parameters as well. Also got one more question. After about ten min driving the car seemed to bog down alot when i stopped, like 300-400 RPM almost stall then correct itself to 600. Here are my main questions
1) is the reason the car was almost stalling because i have the injectors wired up but not set up, or is it because i have the airflow wire not connected to the e-manage with an error code of 13, or a combo of both those two things?

2) to get the injectors to run stock, do i simply just input my injector size (240cc) in the injector screen, i know there is a before size and after size and then the auto correction it comes up with, not sure what to do here.

3) I now understand that the car WILL NOT run if you just simply connect the MAF wires up the to ECU/E-manage, the MAF sensor must now have to be calibrated some how, how do i make it so the settings for the MAF are at the stock setting so i can use my car lol. I understand when i set up my injectors it changes the whole fuel map, does this include the MAF settings as well? Basically i wanted to wire up the e-manage and run my car STOCK until i go turbo, this way its all wired up and ready to start tuning!

4) What is the COM PORT, is this done on the e-manage PC program? I noticed there was a tab for "COM PORT"

5) http://www.iogear.com/support/dm/driver/GUC2322#display Thats the link to the drivers for the "black box" i am using to connect the e-manage to my computer, all i do is download the drivers and when thats done i should now be able to communicate between the e-manage and the PC?


Sorry for all the questions guys im a newbie to the EMB, and there is no better place to ask questions than here! Thank you for taking the time to read this!
-Tony

[maxgtr2000]

1) Double check all your wiring especially the black and red wire on the injector harness, it needs to be fed the same polarity as your injectors, meaning if your injectors get a ground pulse from the ecu to fire it that wire needs to be connected to ground.

2) For the injectors to run stock the additional injection map must read 0 in all cells. Since your maf is not set up or maybe even connected the airflow map will not have an effect.

3) If you are running stock injectors you don't put have to put anything in the correction boxes because there is nothing to correct, you can install your upgraded injectors now though and scale them with the emanage until you get the turbo installed.

4) You need to set the com port, that is how the emanage through the cable will communicate with the pc. If this is not set the box in the upper right hand corner will not blink and your status will always read offline. To figure out the com port I would just say switch it until you see the status changes changes to "Online". Coms through usb can be tricky though but cycling through them should work, if it doesn't just google "usb com port".

5) Download the driver , install and restart, then open the emanage support tool and select the correct com port, you should be able to communicate.

[Mitsu.kid.02]

1) Double check all your wiring especially the black and red wire on the injector harness, it needs to be fed the same polarity as your injectors, meaning if your injectors get a ground pulse from the ecu to fire it that wire needs to be connected to ground.

2) For the injectors to run stock the additional injection map must read 0 in all cells. Since your maf is not set up or maybe even connected the airflow map will not have an effect.

3) If you are running stock injectors you don't put have to put anything in the correction boxes because there is nothing to correct, you can install your upgraded injectors now though and scale them with the emanage until you get the turbo installed.

4) You need to set the com port, that is how the emanage through the cable will communicate with the pc. If this is not set the box in the upper right hand corner will not blink and your status will always read offline. To figure out the com port I would just say switch it until you see the status changes changes to "Online". Coms through usb can be tricky though but cycling through them should work, if it doesn't just google "usb com port".

5) Download the driver , install and restart, then open the emanage support tool and select the correct com port, you should be able to communicate.

Thanks so much for the fast response man!! i did download the drivers for the idogear device and the e-manage was able to communicate to the PC, i changed the injector size to (before)240/(after)240=1.000 it said, so i just left that and changed all the maps to zero, then i "exported to main system" which im assuming is the ECU, car runs perfect, no issues! Now im just nervous about attaching the MAF wires because im not sure if it automatically will calibrate the MAF the same way the whole fuel map changes when you change the injector size, How do i figure out the stock calibration for my stock MAF? Also how do i do the "Throttle Posistion Setting" I opened that up to see what it was, but the values never changed when the throttle was applyed. i just want to make sure it runs stock settings for now and not lean as i dont have a wideband yet to monitor! But all in all its up and working well so far, All i really have to figure out now is the MAF sensor wires. Also if you look at my ECU pinout below, im not sure which wire i need to cut into, any help?? I have circled the potential wires to cut for the MAF below:

i have an A/T:
http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/4246/ecm1.jpg

Number 19 is a purple wire
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/9659/ecm2.jpg

Number 65 is a white wire
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/2923/ecm5.jpg

Which one???










-Tony

[maxgtr2000]

Terminal 65 should be your maf. Right now since your maf is not hooked up the emanage won't really do anything. When you hook up the maf, as long as your maps are zeroed out the car will run like stock. You need to get the maf type for your car set up in the emanage, I've done some searching but couldn't find much, you may have to contact greddy directly, they should be able to help. Your throttle also needs to be set up, if you open the car parameter window and click on throttle setting it will walk you through the process.

[Mitsu.kid.02]

Terminal 65 should be your maf. Right now since your maf is not hooked up the emanage won't really do anything. When you hook up the maf, as long as your maps are zeroed out the car will run like stock. You need to get the maf type for your car set up in the emanage, I've done some searching but couldn't find much, you may have to contact greddy directly, they should be able to help. Your throttle also needs to be set up, if you open the car parameter window and click on throttle setting it will walk you through the process.

Thanks man for the fast response! So looks like 65 huh? cool, ill make note of that when i do hook it up to the e-manage! When you say i need to get the MAF type set up in the e-manage, do you mean the first three rotary switches on the e-manage itself? I know the MAF sensor type is a Karman vortex MAF sensor type all lancer/evo and DSM's use them. Even when the MAF is not wired up to the e-manage i noticed somewhere, i cant remember where, but in one of the screens it noted my MAF Karman Vortex type sensor, is this what you mean? And i also tryed to set the throttle possition as well, in the parameter screen at the bottom there is a button to open up a new window where it shows the throttle possition, however i was un able to calibrate, i tryed with the car off, and on, but when i pushed the pedal none of the values changed, is there a wire i missed or something? All i have wired up now are POWER, GROUND, RPM,(from main harness) and then INJECTORS 1,2,3,4, INJECTOR GROUND (from the injector harness). Thanks man
-Tony

[maxgtr2000]

Thanks man for the fast response! So looks like 65 huh? cool, ill make note of that when i do hook it up to the e-manage! When you say i need to get the MAF type set up in the e-manage, do you mean the first three rotary switches on the e-manage itself? I know the MAF sensor type is a Karman vortex MAF sensor type all lancer/evo and DSM's use them. Even when the MAF is not wired up to the e-manage i noticed somewhere, i cant remember where, but in one of the screens it noted my MAF Karman Vortex type sensor, is this what you mean? And i also tryed to set the throttle possition as well, in the parameter screen at the bottom there is a button to open up a new window where it shows the throttle possition, however i was un able to calibrate, i tryed with the car off, and on, but when i pushed the pedal none of the values changed, is there a wire i missed or something? All i have wired up now are POWER, GROUND, RPM,(from main harness) and then INJECTORS 1,2,3,4, INJECTOR GROUND (from the injector harness). Thanks man
-TonyOn the maf type I mean in the drop down window in the parameter setting. You need to hook up your tps wire "# 78" to the emanage. Another thing is make sure the support tool (emanage program) is upgraded to version 1.49 if you decide to install the greddy ignition harness (you won't need this harness until you get the turbo though). You can download it at the greddy website in the tech support section if you haven't done so already. The reason is some mitsu people with emanage had a problem with it frying the coils if the ignition harness was hooked up and the key was in the "on" position without the car running.

[Mitsu.kid.02]

On the maf type I mean in the drop down window in the parameter setting. You need to hook up your tps wire "# 78" to the emanage. Another thing is make sure the support tool (emanage program) is upgraded to version 1.49 if you decide to install the greddy ignition harness (you won't need this harness until you get the turbo though). You can download it at the greddy website in the tech support section if you haven't done so already. The reason is some mitsu people with emanage had a problem with it frying the coils if the ignition harness was hooked up and the key was in the "on" position without the car running.


No shit, hmm ill deff make a note to upgrade when i go turbo (got the intercooler today :-)!) What color coming off of the e-manage harness is for the TPS? Also for the MAF in the dropdown window in the parameter settng one of the types is already selected, should i still maybe call greddy? or try to hook it up and see if the car will run with the zero'd out maps? Thanks man
-Tony

[maxgtr2000]

No shit, hmm ill deff make a note to upgrade when i go turbo (got the intercooler today :-)!) What color coming off of the e-manage harness is for the TPS? Also for the MAF in the dropdown window in the parameter settng one of the types is already selected, should i still maybe call greddy? or try to hook it up and see if the car will run with the zero'd out maps? Thanks man
-Tony

Emanage tps wire is gray. If the maf is already selected you should be ok, you should make the connection and see if the car runs. If it doesn't maybe contact greddy because I couldn't find what your first 3 dials or maf settings should be for your car.

[Mitsu.kid.02]

Emanage tps wire is gray. If the maf is already selected you should be ok, you should make the connection and see if the car runs. If it doesn't maybe contact greddy because I couldn't find what your first 3 dials or maf settings should be for your car.

Ok, ill hook up the MAF sensor wires today and check to see if the car runs. The first three dials are the same as the evo MAF (karman vortex type) 3, 8, 6 is what the dials are set to, this came out of a lancer oz also before i got it, so im thinking it should be set up for the stock MAF sensor. Ill give it a shot and let you know how it goes today man. Ill wire up the TPS wire as well and get the throttle setting set up! I'll also update to 1.49 now so i wont forget to when i install the turbo very soon!, Thanks for all the help man
-Tony

[Mitsu.kid.02]

Emanage tps wire is gray. If the maf is already selected you should be ok, you should make the connection and see if the car runs. If it doesn't maybe contact greddy because I couldn't find what your first 3 dials or maf settings should be for your car.


So i hooked up the MAF sensor wires, and TPS. Set up the throttle possition, it read 0 closed, and 100% full pedal, then export it to the main unit. start the car, car runs fine. I shut off the car. I then open ALL THE MAPS including anti-stall, airflow, sub injector, intector, AUX, Ignition, there are several others that i was able to check off in the "vehicle parameter" and open them as maps. I zero out everything, the export to the main unit. Now when i start the car it hunts for an idle, and when i give it gas at first it hesitates, not sure what happened here? I had to disconnect the wires again because i cant drive it like that. :mad:

[miksatx]

are you recirculating the bov or venting to the atmostphere? whats the tps min/max look like ?

[Mitsu.kid.02]

Can is non-turbo now, when its installed im running the stock evo8 diverter valve recirculated. im just waiting for my intercooler j-pipe and UICP to be all set to go! As of right now i want the e-manage all wired up but only that, just wired up, no settings or tune as of right now, so when the turbo is installed i can start tuning a.s.a.p., but when i connect the airflow wires my car runs like its cammed haha it hunts for an idle and when i give it gas at first it chokes. TPS readings if i recalled when 100% 4.97v i beleve and like 67v when closed, those arent the exact numbers, im just trying to remember, i can hook it up tonight and re-check them.


are you recirculating the bov or venting to the atmostphere? whats the tps min/max look like ?

[maxgtr2000]

Double check if the emanage is putting out any fault codes and double check your connections.

[Mitsu.kid.02]

Double check if the emanage is putting out any fault codes and double check your connections.


I mean when the airflow wires are not connected it gives me a code 13 for karman vortex signal wires disconnected but when they are connected it goes away and emanage flashes green, so no fault codes while its connected. Hmm, maybe ill just try disconnecting the batt or something idk what else to look for, maybe ill post a vid tomorro or something if i can get one up, Here is the current settings on my e-manage blue:

A.A.V settings: Start point is 2000RPM, with a (-) setting. Point one is 2000RPM, with a (-1) setting. Point three is 3000RPM, with a (+1) setting. Point four is 4000RPM, with a (+1) setting. Point five is 5000RPM, with a (+2) setting.

TPS setting: Min is 0.13V
Max is 4.94V

Rotory switches: 3,8,3 karman vortex airflow

Ignition input jumper: Pull down
Ignition output jumper: 5V

Airflow meter1-not in use
Airflow meter2-not in use
Airflow meter pulse input-in use/Karmin in
Airflow meter pule output-in use/Karmin out

In the vehicle parameter window all the maps are selected:

Ignition map- reads zero
Additional injector map- reads zero
Sub injector map- reads zero
Aux output settin- not sure
Airflow ajustment map- reads zero
Acceleration map- reads zero
Boost limit cutting map- reads zero
Anti stall map- reads zero

Anything wrong with these settings?? Is the A.A.V settings correct, or is this the culprit?
-Tony

[Dzaster]

Not sure how similar your car is to this model, but its worth a read over.

http://web.archive.org/web/20071214010106/home.fuse.net/wallace/emanage/e-manage_Install.htm

[Mitsu.kid.02]

Not sure how similar your car is to this model, but its worth a read over.

http://web.archive.org/web/20071214010106/home.fuse.net/wallace/emanage/e-manage_Install.htm

Thanks for that article! It made me feel better because i know i wired up correctly. The evo ECU is not the same as the lancer ECU, but they are similar in the colors used. Im sure that my wiring is ok. I plugged in the laptop once more to triple check and i found that at 2000 RPM there was a -3 on timing, but i dont see how this could effect my car even if it was -100 because i dont have the ignition/timing harnesses, so that shouldnt have effected the cars preformance right? I zero'd it out anyway. Im thinking maybe the A.A.V settings are whats causing the car to run rough when the airflow wires are hooked up, at idle and when i first give it some gas how it studders. The settings are (-)starting point 2,000RPM,(-1)point one 2,000RPM,(+1)point two 3,000RPM(+1)point three 4,000RPM(+1)point four 5,000RPM(+2)point five 6,000RPM. I think maybe this is whats causing the hesitation and stumble? Do i imply zero to these as well? Thanks
-Tony

[miksatx]

that aav starting should be changed to 1000. and the tps min is way to low i could see it having the stalling prob. i set mine at .44

[Mitsu.kid.02]

Ok yah man i didnt know you could actually change those values haha, i will do that and update! Also i will change the A.A.V starting setting to 1,000RPM. But are the A.A.V values correct, I.E-(-),(-1)(+1)(+1)(+1)(+2)? Thanks bro
-Tony


that aav starting should be changed to 1000. and the tps min is way to low i could see it having the stalling prob. i set mine at .44

[miksatx]

Ok yah man i didnt know you could actually change those values haha, i will do that and update! Also i will change the A.A.V starting setting to 1,000RPM. But are the A.A.V values correct, I.E-(-),(-1)(+1)(+1)(+1)(+2)? Thanks bro
-Tony

yup ya need to change it when your online to the unit lol.

[Mitsu.kid.02]

yup ya need to change it when your online to the unit lol.

Oh ok lol ima dumbass. lol Ok well what would you call this? 0.75v at min? Not sure why mine is reading a 0.13v?
http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/6420/tps.jpg

[Dzaster]

Perhaps your TPS needs calibrating, if its adjustable.

Those AAV settings you can just set them all to zero--the dials on the front panel of the unit. Those increments you have are really small so not a bit deal, but set'em to 0 as you have a laptop to make real changes via the "maps".

[Mitsu.kid.02]

Perhaps your TPS needs calibrating, if its adjustable.

Those AAV settings you can just set them all to zero--the dials on the front panel of the unit. Those increments you have are really small so not a bit deal, but set'em to 0 as you have a laptop to make real changes via the "maps".

When you say calibrating, you mean on the actual TPS? or do you mean in the throttle settting in the main emanage unit when hooked up to the pc? Ill set the dials to zero!, do i need to be hooked up to the laptop for the dials to take effect?
-Tony

[miksatx]

Perhaps your TPS needs calibrating, if its adjustable.

Those AAV settings you can just set them all to zero--the dials on the front panel of the unit. Those increments you have are really small so not a bit deal, but set'em to 0 as you have a laptop to make real changes via the "maps".

agreeded^
oh lol i forgot all bout the front panel dials. yup zero all those points. and never ever touch them again lol

[Mitsu.kid.02]

agreeded^
oh lol i forgot all bout the front panel dials. yup zero all those points. and never ever touch them again lol

LOL ok will do man! Thanks so much for the help guys, ill set the TPS to about 0.75V min, and zero out the A.A.V settings on the panel and the e-manage itself and let you know whats goin on!
-Tony

[Mitsu.kid.02]

The switches on the panel for the A.A.V settings are all at zero already, but when i plug it in the the comp it tells me that there are settings as low as (-1) and as high as (+2)??

[miksatx]

can you do a screen capture and put it up i'm not following i guess lol

[Mitsu.kid.02]

can you do a screen capture and put it up i'm not following i guess lol

I tryed to take a pic of the e-manage but i couldnt seem to capure it, is there any easy way you know of? I fixed the A.A.V values. Starting point is 1000, all zeros. As for the throttle setting it is un-changable, i cannot seem to change any information. Its now 0.67V min at 12% and at 100% its 4.94. car runs ok now. Im not sure why it stays at 12% tho when the gas isnt depressed?

[Mitsu.kid.02]

Sofar so good! No error codes, the car is running good with the airflow wires connected. Couldnt have done it without you guys, thanks a bunch!!
-Tony

[miksatx]

I tryed to take a pic of the e-manage but i couldnt seem to capure it, is there any easy way you know of? I fixed the A.A.V values. Starting point is 1000, all zeros. As for the throttle setting it is un-changable, i cannot seem to change any information. Its now 0.67V min at 12% and at 100% its 4.94. car runs ok now. Im not sure why it stays at 12% tho when the gas isnt depressed?
lol the only way to change min on the tps is to loosen up the screws or bolts that hold the tps and adjust it there. you'll need to get your laptop over in the drivers side seat to see the comp probably. or have someone in the car watching the signal change up or down. then when you get it in the range ya want snug down the tps

[Mitsu.kid.02]

Oh, damn i never knew that haha, Its running good now, but should i try to change the TPS anyway so that it reads 0% at idle? More questions!

1) when the turbo goes on and i start to tune the airflow and injector map, in the airflow map, negitive numbers are generally more rich, and possitive numbers are generally more lean?

2) Whats the acceleration map, and how does this work?

3) I have 240cc stock injectors, but i have 330's for when i go turbo, if i put them in the car now, before i have the turbo installed and adjust them in the parameter window where it has the injector scaling and correction option, will i run rich without the turbo and zero'd maps or will it be ok to install them now? The less i have to do all at once the better!

lol the only way to change min on the tps is to loosen up the screws or bolts that hold the tps and adjust it there. you'll need to get your laptop over in the drivers side seat to see the comp probably. or have someone in the car watching the signal change up or down. then when you get it in the range ya want snug down the tps

[miksatx]

Oh, damn i never knew that haha, Its running good now, but should i try to change the TPS anyway so that it reads 0% at idle? More questions!

1) when the turbo goes on and i start to tune the airflow and injector map, in the airflow map, negitive numbers are generally more rich, and possitive numbers are generally more lean?

2) Whats the acceleration map, and how does this work?

3) I have 240cc stock injectors, but i have 330's for when i go turbo, if i put them in the car now, before i have the turbo installed and adjust them in the parameter window where it has the injector scaling and correction option, will i run rich without the turbo and zero'd maps or will it be ok to install them now? The less i have to do all at once the better!

no don't set it to 0. maybe your best bet is to set the tps as described in your service manual. the standard values for my car are 3.5kohm to 6.5kohm. yours being a auto is maybe different.
1. best do all the corrections in the injector map, ignition map and maybe the antistall cause of being auto.
2. never used that map ,don't know how it works.
3. you scale them in the parameters. change them when ya stick on the turbo. by the way what turbo you using?
your not going to be able to tune crap till you get a wideband controller and sensor installed

[Mitsu.kid.02]

Im on the hunt for a AEM wideband right now! Im using a 16g stock evo8 turbo setup on my lancer, so i should buy the ignition harness?

no don't set it to 0. maybe your best bet is to set the tps as described in your service manual. the standard values for my car are 3.5kohm to 6.5kohm. yours being a auto is maybe different.
1. best do all the corrections in the injector map, ignition map and maybe the antistall cause of being auto.
2. never used that map ,don't know how it works.
3. you scale them in the parameters. change them when ya stick on the turbo. by the way what turbo you using?
your not going to be able to tune crap till you get a wideband controller and sensor installed

[miksatx]

it's your call. i hooked mine up. but you say in the end you plan on flashing a ecu for tuning. i run my car turboed for years pushing 10/11psi and never ajusted the timing. if ya don't want to carve up the stock ecu harness i wouldn't worry pushing 7psi.

[Mitsu.kid.02]

it's your call. i hooked mine up. but you say in the end you plan on flashing a ecu for tuning. i run my car turboed for years pushing 10/11psi and never ajusted the timing. if ya don't want to carve up the stock ecu harness i wouldn't worry pushing 7psi.

Ya i plan on just getting the cable i need to just flash the ECU when i get good at tuning. I will be restricting the turbo at 5PSI max until i can get a good tune from the e-manage, then im going to start flashing once i get a good feel for how to tune!

[Mitsu.kid.02]

So i shouldnt mess with the airflow ajustment map? is that because it messes with timing?

[miksatx]

So i shouldnt mess with the airflow ajustment map? is that because it messes with timing?
nope

[Mitsu.kid.02]

nope

Ok man thanks for all the help

[miksatx]

Ok man thanks for all the help
no problem. get some bigger injectors your going to need them lol.
one thing i've found out through the years is that ppl that start out 5/7psi. end up a couple weeks later boosting 10/11psi lmao

[Mitsu.kid.02]

lol yah im just scared to boost that high cuz im new to tuning, technically i can drive my car un-tunned as long as its not in boost right?

no problem. get some bigger injectors your going to need them lol.
one thing i've found out through the years is that ppl that start out 5/7psi. end up a couple weeks later boosting 10/11psi lmao

[miksatx]

lol yah im just scared to boost that high cuz im new to tuning, technically i can drive my car un-tunned as long as its not in boost right?

getting the wideband in will help tons.

[Mitsu.kid.02]

Ya thats true, but how do i monitor knock? And i tryed to PM back but got this message: "miksatx has chosen not to receive private messages or may not be allowed to receive private messages. Therefore you may not send your message to him/her.

If you are trying to send this message to multiple recipients, remove miksatx from the recipient list and send the message again"

But i got the PM ill register there

[miksatx]

figures seems like i always have probs sending messages lol

[Mitsu.kid.02]

Hahah and nope not fixed yet still wont let me send. I posted an intro over there

[miksatx]

yeah it's not to crazy over there lol