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Fluke
04-10-2010, 01:37 PM
My car is a 1997 Mk1 (NA) 1.8 and I finally managed to get the Emanage blue hooked up to my ECU and have a couple of problems. Firstly, it will only fire up if I remove the Emanage ignition harness. I originally cut ignition 1 and 2 on the harness and connected them as per the instructions, but it won’t fire up. The instructions say:

Ignition 1 - blue/white wire to ECU
blue/black wire to Sensor

Ignition 2 - Orange/white wire to ECU
Orange/black wire to Sensor

Am I missing something? Am I correct in saying that there are only 2 ignition points on the ECU harness?

If I connect up the emanage to run with the MAF wire connected it wont start. I can only get it running with the MAF and ignition disconnected.

I have tripple/quadruple checked the wiring and have a copy of the correct wiring diagram for a 1997 1.8

I hooked my lap top up and made sure everything was zero'd and that the main unit was updated. I am using version 1.49 of the software. The jumpers inside are set as per the factory settings, and the pots are set to 3-A-3, everything else is zero'd.

Does anyone have any idea of what maybe wrong? I'm pulling my hair out with this, and getting close to going back to my damn'd MSD and Powercard Pro.

Accord2nrz
04-10-2010, 02:59 PM
When you try starting the car does it studder and then die or does it just not even fire up?

I think you need to switch ign 1 and the blue/black wire.

then switch the ign 2 and the orange black wire.

Your MAF should be a hotire setup so I think jumper 1-2 are supposed to be left open.

Accord2nrz
04-10-2010, 02:59 PM
When you try starting the car does it studder and then die or does it just not even fire up?

I think you need to switch ign 1 and the blue/black wire.

then switch the ign 2 and the orange black wire.

Your MAF should be a hotire setup so I think jumper 1-2 are supposed to be left open.
Can you take a picture of your jumper settings and post them?

I'm sticking this thread until I get your problem resolved.

Fluke
04-10-2010, 04:57 PM
Thanks for the reply. The car will stutter and die if I leave the ignition wires off and attach the MAF. I've tried swaping the wires round. i.e -

Ignition 1 - blue/white wire to Sensor
blue/black wire to ECU

Ignition 2 - Orange/white wire to Sensor
Orange/black wire to ECU

and its still a no go.:confused: The car turns over but will not start up.

The Jumpers on the board are set to -

JP1 - 1-2
JP2 - 1-2
JP3 - 1-2
JP4 - Open
JP5 - Open
JP6 - Open
JP7 - 1-2

The MAF wire is -


White wire - ECU
Green wire - Sensor

The car will run if I remove the ignition and MAF wires from the harness.. I just dont understand whats wrong.:confused: I have even checked the emanage wires to make sure there are no breaks in them.

I can do without the MAF wire as I plan to use the emanage to datalog my AFR's using my AEM Wide band. I take it that the white wire gives a 5v signal?

Although, right now I would be happy just to get everything running properlybefore messing around.:(

Accord2nrz
04-11-2010, 02:46 AM
Set jumper 2 to 2 -> 3 and then try to start it. That should make it fire.



If you went by the ECU diagram in the emanage manual I think you might have been mislead.
http://www.diytuning.com/MAF.jpg


If (as you are viewing your ecu from the harness side) your setup looks like this then the wire I've highlighted 3B is your airflow sensor wire. Yes it reads from 0 to 5v. Your MAF wires are backwards.

The white goes to the sensor. the green connects to slot 3B.
I dont know much about the mazda engines but im assuming they are distributor 4 cylinders? Group your 2 ignition wires together and wire them to the emb unit using one in and one out.

Hope this helps alittle. I'll be praying for success. :)

Fluke
04-11-2010, 08:43 AM
Your pin out is correct.:) However the the only pins on the ECU used by the emanage are on connectors 4 and 3. So the MAF is fitted at 3B which is confirmed by your diagram. Here is how I have done mine -

http://premium1.uploadit.org/yan816//96-97--Emanage-Wiring2.jpg

The Mazda uses a coil pack, Im not sure I could wire them up together without causing damage.:confused: Everyone else that has fitted the emanage to their Miata/MX5 has used two sources of ignition, but their ECU's and pin outs are different.:(

AS I am fitting an AEM wide band I could use the MAF wire on the emanage loom to read the 5v from the AEM.

So really the only problem appears to be the fact that the ignition side of the Emanage wont work. Is it possible that the emanage is borked?

Fluke
04-12-2010, 10:58 AM
I have just rechecked the wires and made sure that there were no breaks in them by using a multi meter. I plugged the harness into the emanage and put a probe on each end.

I am starting to think that maybe the emanage is borked. I am currently looking for anyone close to me that has one fitted that would be willing to swap out for a few min's? It would be a simple job of just unplugging it and plugging it into my harness. I just need to rule out the emanage as being the problem.

Accord2nrz
04-12-2010, 03:36 PM
Yea i'm beginning to think the same thing. You bought your model second hand right? or did you buy it new?

Fluke
04-12-2010, 06:19 PM
Second hand.

Fluke
04-14-2010, 09:40 PM
I have tried every concievable combination of jumper 1 and 2 - even leaving them open, and it just wont start. I have used a plug tester and am not getting a spark no matter what I do. Everything falls apart the minute I connect the ignition wires up.

I can connect to the emanage and change what ever I need to, I have even loaded a base ma

Fluke
04-30-2010, 03:48 PM
Just a quick update on this. I sent the e-manage off t get it checked and have been told that the unit was at fault. The ignition driver within the e-manage that had failed and was putting out a low signal.:( Its been repaired and should be on its way back to me soon.:cool:

Accord2nrz
04-30-2010, 04:42 PM
Good to have the problem nailed down. Did you end up having to pay to get the unit repaired?

Fluke
04-30-2010, 06:18 PM
The guy I bought it from told me that he would sort out paying for the repair, and to be honest he seems a decent bloke, so it should all be sorted soon.:)

Accord2nrz
04-30-2010, 10:16 PM
good deal then, I know you can't wait to get it back and try it out.