Emanage Blue no cold start

[mozso]

Hi Guys,

After connecting Emanage Blue ignition harness engine is not starting at all when cold. If I start it without ignition harness and reconnect it when warm it works. If it cools down again no start. Everything is connected 100% correctly.

My idea is when cold and factory ECU starts in open loop I'm running too rich and engine stalls after 3-6 seconds. After that I cannot start. Ignition settings in EMB are zero currently.

Can somebody share Emanage Blue settings for Toyota 1ZZ-FE with F/I? Rotary switches, which Toyota hotwire, jumper settings (JP2???)? I want to double check them.

BTW if ignition harness is connected and during cold start ECU gives P035x CEL codes (ignition malfunction Primary A-D). If I warm up the engine and reconnect ignition harness everything is fine, drove 200km, no CEL, no problems engine responds for ignition timing changes in EMB.

Strange. Any help welcome. I did drove 15.000km without ignition harness with turbo without a single problem.

Emanage Blue 1.13/1.39
Corolla 1ZZ 2006 drive by wire.
Stock injector 180ccm, current 310ccm.

[RPW00Mirage]

Really makes it sound like one of your wires is wrong. can you communicate with the EMB via PC? why not upgrade to 1.49 and then read the error lights off the side of the device?

[mozso]

But if the engine is warm it can be started without any problem even with connected ignition harness, moreover we can actually change ignition timing while the engine is runnig.

EMB doesn't give any error. I cannot upgrade my EMB to 1.49 it refuses the upgrade.

[Accord2nrz]

every car starts in open loop when its cold, allows for excessive fuel to keep the system going until everything warms up. then closed loop takes over. =)

[maxgtr2000]

When you open up the support tool and go to parameters ( I think that is the section) check to see what your ignition voltage in and voltage out is and make sure it matches, I think one can be set to 5v or so and that is not what you want if the system is supposed to be getting 12v. There is a jumper that possibly needs to be switched if you got the unit used from someone else with a different vehicle. When mine was wrong the car would start but idle like trash.

[Dzaster]

There is a jumper that possibly needs to be switched if you got the unit used from someone else with a different vehicle. When mine was wrong the car would start but idle like trash.
I think this could be it as well. I got mine froma guy who hadn't used it but he may have set the jumpers, or not, but I never bothered to check and I couldn't get the car to start with the ignition harness in. I never bothered to try and run the car first then plug in the ignition harness because something was obviously wrong, and it was, in deed, the jumpers.


For the jumpers it should be this:
http://i525.photobucket.com/albums/cc340/dzaster96799/Turbo/eManage/Jumpers.png

So your number 2 should be set on 1-2pin.

And here is the rotary:
http://i525.photobucket.com/albums/cc340/dzaster96799/Turbo/eManage/rotary.png


Do you have the manual? I think its in our downloads section.

[mozso]

Thanks guys.

Yes I have the manual.

Only concerns:
Should I use 4-2-2 or 4-4-2 setting (Toyota hotwire 2 or hotwire 3). JP2 should be 5V or 12V? How can I measure the ignition voltage?

[Dzaster]

I don't know about the jumper 2 setting.


But see the bottom of this diagram, I know your specific engine is not listed, but I believe that 4-2-2 on the 1NZ-FE is what you would use.
http://i525.photobucket.com/albums/cc340/dzaster96799/Turbo/eManage/45.jpg

[Accord2nrz]

Thanks guys.

Yes I have the manual.

Only concerns:
Should I use 4-2-2 or 4-4-2 setting (Toyota hotwire 2 or hotwire 3). JP2 should be 5V or 12V? How can I measure the ignition voltage?


Actually I suggest everyone do this, do a rapidshare search for a shop manual for your particular vehicle if you dont have one already. I know in my shop manual it says what the voltage is for my IGM (ignition control module).

if you know where your IGM is put an volt meter to it a wire leading to it then crank the motor.

[mozso]

So if I understand correctly JP2 5V/12V depends on what is the trigger voltage for ignition signal right? And I can measure this at the ignition control module. I will try. My manual states 9-14V between connections of B+ and GND measured on the ignition coil, but I should measure not this, but the ignition signal voltage going into the ignition coil.

[Accord2nrz]

that's correct